Splits don’t matter, cause is the same: Syed Ali Geelani
If one looks up in world of words then defiance is a word
which conciliates best for a personality known as Syed Ali Geelani. A frail man in mid 80s has strapping will-power
that goes unparalleled. Being an intrepid critic of India’s policies in Kashmir
and known for his fierce speeches against India, Geelani in an exclusive
interview to Rising Kashmir’s Online
Editor Daanish Bin Nabi talks about
the latest break up in Hurriyat and
other issues involving Kashmir politics. Excerpts:
- · Authorities don’t allow me to offer Friday prayers, how would they allow our parties cadre to interact with student
- · We are trying that whole of Kashmir youth join Hurriyat
- · Whether I am in Delhi or in Kashmir, I work for movement
- · I appeal for a complete boycott of any elections taking in Kashmir
- · I got a rousing welcome wherever I went to hold rallies
- · Politics is a part of Islam
- · Pakistan should be able to protect its people no matter to which sect they belong to
- · What is your take on recent split of Hurriyat and do you think people are fed up with these splits?
The split of Hurriyat Conference is no issue for us.
Hurriyat Conference has split before and in recently as well. The only real
issue is people of Jammu and Kashmir are under repression of India. The main
issue and our aim are to see people free. These break ups are in no way hurdle
of the main objective which is to achieve Azadi. Firstly, there were two
Hurriyat’s now the third one has been formed but one needs to understand that
every sister party of ours has only cause that is to achieve Azadi. Only our
paths are different but the goal is same. Split from one another is no worry
for us. Common people also know about
such things that Hurriyat Conference is people’s movement and Hurriyat is with
people till the very last. Hurriyat has played very important part beforehand
and is doing it presently and will do it in future as well.
- · In various universities in Kashmir youth wings of various mainstream parties have been formed but we see no such efforts from your organization. Why?
See this is the problem; the thing here is that the youth of
Kashmir should understand that they should desist from joining any political
mainstream party and should not help anyone who support the Indian State.
Hurriyat (G) youth wing was not formed because one has to take a realistic
approach. Authorities don’t allow me to
offer Friday prayers, how would they allow our parties cadre to interact with
student. They don’t allow our cadre to go to anywhere is Kashmir for any
political activities. Our almost entire leadership has been put behind bars. In
such circumstances how can we form a youth wing of our party. And our
recruiting policy is not limited to universities only but we are trying that
whole of Kashmir youth join Hurriyat.
- · You are criticized for winter trips you take to Delhi. What’s your take on it?
(Smiling) Now is this
an issue as well. My being here or in Delhi doesn’t matter at all. Actually, this
time around we had some programs and issue which needed a proper deliberation.
Youth should understand this whether I am in Delhi or in Kashmir, I work for
movement and for the pious cause. All this has been recorded in books or
reported in media. If the need arises I will leave for Delhi as well. We will
not leave any stone unturned in serving our own people.
- · Do you think you succeeded in making your boycott call successful during your recent rallies to various parts of Kashmir?
I want to convey that anyone voting in parliament election
or assembly election goes against the sacrifices of the people. Casting votes
goes in favour of India who then exploit world community on Kashmir. Examples
of such incidents can be seen in a speech by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on
15 August 2012, when he spoke only one sentence about Kashmir and said that
people of Kashmir have voted in Panchayat elections. And the people who commit
themselves and run for Indian election they are the pillars of Indian state in
Kashmir. The leaders of such people are from the Unified Command. It’s under their knowledge human rights violation
takes places in Kashmir on huge scale. People
should desist from casting votes to such people whose hands are drenched with
blood of innocent people. It even goes against our basic faith that’s Islam. I
appeal to every citizen and especially youth should take this call forward with
an intellect argument to those who cast vote. And I appeal for a complete
boycott of any elections taking in Kashmir.
- · Do you think your home turf Sopore has responded well to your call as far larger crowd was in Kupwara and Kulgam?
It’s not like that. I must say I got a rousing welcome
wherever I went to hold rallies in recent past and especially in Sopore. As far
as Sopore is concerned, Soporian’s love me and they welcomed me like anything.
And you can see yourself how people from all walks of life came and attended my
rallies.
- · There are number of youth languishing in various jails of Jammu and Kashmir. Has Hurriyat G any concrete policy for pursuing their cases and subsequently rehabilitating them?
Hurriyat has created a legal cell for pursuing cases
pertaining to youth. We try to meet them in jails and try to resolve their
problems. I must say that till now we have not taken all the cases, but we try
to do everything best possible in our capacity with whatever resources
available with us. As far as rehabilitation is concerned we have always asked people
to open Bait-ul-Maal at local level so that people such as released prisoners,
orphans, widows or people who get killed can utilize these funds. Everyone should understand the essence of
Baitul- ul-Maal and every effort at local level should be put forth to
establish such institutions. While we have to take certain things in consideration: the
head of such institutions should be
people who are honest, upright and God
fearing same as our righteous Caliphs
used to.
- · Do you think J&K can sustain economically as an independent nation?
All such type of questions likes economy or foreign policies
are created to create confusion among the masses and divert them form real
issue in hand. There are two things aid and trade. Like any other state we are
ready to have good trade relations with India there is no harm in it. But aid no.
We won’t, not even a single grain of it come what may, and we will never accept
not even a penny of aid from India. We will never beg for aid. God has given us
numerous natural resources; we will utilize our own experts to get our economy
going. Bu unfortunately, same as India was golden goose for British; same is
Kashmir to India in these times. In open
broad daylight India is despoiling our natural goods same as Great Britain did
with India. Deforestation by Indian state takes place on a huge scale every now
and then and same is the case with our water resources. Just to quote you one
example approximately around 5200kannal of forest land in Shopian has been
taken up to built another cantonment which will create environmental
degradation as well. Approximately around 3 to 4 Lakh tress will be bulldozed
to ground. This is how we are living, our own land is not safe under such
militarily presence. In Kashmir around
28 lakh Kannals of land is under military presence. The misfortune is wherever they
see any piece of empty land they grab it under different pretext. Another
recent example of such type of oppression is Tos-Maidan case. In Tehsil Bijbehara
alone, on around 956 Kannals of land Indian military will be constructing
another cantonment. Agricultural, forest and horticulture land is involved
there and some of resident houses will be raised to ground for making yet
another cantonment. You can see yourself how these people who run for election
are trying to sell us and everything that belongs to a common Kashmiri to India
just to remain in power and to preserve their own self interests. That’s why
the issue of economy does not bother us as we are self sufficient. All this is
achievable when India withdrew her of military presenc in Kashmir.
- · Do you fear for your life after you made a scathing statement on the role played by Tehreek Taliban Pakistan in Pakistan?
Death is in hands of Allah only and He alone can take life
away if He wishes so. There are more than one dozen assassination attempts on
my life so far by various sources. But Allah has protected me every time.
Tehreek Taliban Pakistan is no worry for me nevertheless the only concern is Pakistan’s
stability, wellbeing and its everlasting existence for all Muslims all over the
globe. Pakistan should be able to protect its people no matter to which sect
they belong to. Their faiths and place of worship protection is a big concern.
I am saying it openly and without any hesitation that whatever Tehreek Taliban
Pakistan’s is trying to achieve neither Islam gives permission of such acts nor
any humanitarian law or any other law consent their acts.
- · If not politics, what would have been Geelani’s career choice?
One must understand Islam first. Islam is not a religion it
is a way of life. And a person when he accepts this way of life then any mature
person will never distinguish his other workings from Islam. As a mature when I accepted Islam I
automatically got involved into politics as well. Politics is a part of Islam,
we cannot separate the two. And I assure you when any politician indoctrinates
Islam in himself he can never misguide or deceit people like any other common
politician.
- · Who next after you in Hurriyat?
We have a system in place. This party is not a fiefdom. I am
an elected Chairman this time. As far as
Hurriyat is concerned, we have Shoora and democracy in our party. We have party
election every time for the selection of chairman and after me who ever gets
elected will lead the party.
Interview conducted on January 14, 2014.